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Re: QRV any digi mode

Tony/AB2CJ <ab2cj@...>
 

Hi Mike, just got your mail. If your still there... pick a clear freq and
I'll meet you there.

tnx Tony
AB2CJ

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Pastorcich <kf4hey@...>
To: digitalradio@... <digitalradio@...>
Date: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 8:45 PM
Subject: [digitalradio] Re: QRV any digi mode



Tony,

Can do Throb. Time/Freq?

Mike KF4HEY


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Anyone for Throb, MT63 ??

Tony
AB2CJ

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Muti mode beaconing

Tony/AB2CJ <ab2cj@...>
 

Greetings all..

I'd like to experiment further with multi-mode digital beaconing in the next
few days. The first QRP ( 3 watt ) muti-mode beacon experiment went well
thanks to Sid, AH6HH and Jim, in Arkansas ( sorry Jim, forgot your call).
From the several modes in the beacon, Jim was able to copy MFSK and
PSKHell, while Sid copied text from MFSK and PSK31.

To create the beacon, several modes were recorded from one PC to another,
creating wav files for each mode. These files were then placed on a single
file using the cut and paste method and a digital audio editing program
called CoolEdit ( www.syntrillium.com ). CW identification was also added
at the end of each mode, as well as 45 second pauses between modes to allow
those monitoring enough time to switch software. The modes included in the
beacon transmit in the following order.. RTTY, Throb, PSK31, MT63, Hell
Feld and PSK), MFSK16 and MFSK8. I left shorter 15 second pauses between
modes that share the same software.

The last time a ran the beacon , I didn't alow enough advance notice. This
time, I will post the time and frequency well in advance for the next
experiments.

Thanks, es 73
Tony, AB2CJ

Testing:Testing.

Andrew Nicholson <andrew@...>
 

Hi All.
Good to hear that a bit of Thobbing has taken place, Might it be a good idea
to keep the list uptodate with future ventures in modes such as Throb,
Slowfeld, MT63, Hell Etc:.
This would be benificial to all participants, the SWL like myself, the
Licenced Ham new to Digital, The writer of the program. The more people
involved if only Listening, the more information you will gain on the
signal, strengths, areas reached etc:
At the moment it seems that we only find out after the event, some of us I
am sure would like to know beforehand.
I hope I have not spoken out of term.
Regards and 73
Andy N

(No subject)

Jack \(YL2KA\) <yl2ka@...>
 

AMTOR?

Andrew J. O'Brien <obrienaj@...>
 

I have not heard an AMTOR signal in ages, has AMTOR become extinct?

Andy KB2EOQ

Multi Mode sound card software

Andrew J. O'Brien <obrienaj@...>
 

I am aware that Mix has the ability to work several digital modes (RTTY,
PSK, CW, and more) but what about other software ? Writelog has some
perhaps. Is that it? Seems odd to me that there would only be two.
Zakanaka will eventually have RTTY , PSK and CW. The world is waiting for
that one program that does them all! (including Hell and MT63)

Andy KB2EOQ

Samples of digital signals

Andrew J. O'Brien <obrienaj@...>
 

All the digital sounds you might want to hear can be found at

http://det.bi.ehu.es/~jtpjatae/sound.html

Re: AMTOR?

Nick Fedoseev <nf@...>
 

Hello Andrew,

Friday, May 12, 2000, you wrote:

Andrew> I have not heard an AMTOR signal in ages, has AMTOR become extinct?

I heard AMTOR twice last year :-)



Best regards,
Nick mailto:nf@...

Re: AMTOR?

Les Warriner <leswa7ham@...>
 

Like CW?
.
.
.At 04:26 PM 05/12/2000 +0300, you wrote:

Hello Andrew,

Friday, May 12, 2000, you wrote:

Andrew> I have not heard an AMTOR signal in ages, has AMTOR become extinct?

I heard AMTOR twice last year :-)



Best regards,
Nick mailto:nf@...



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AMTOR

Derek Shipman <derek@...>
 

Re message from Andy about AMTOR. Not extinct,but getting rare. I still check for FEC/Amtor,but been a while since I had a QSO. Still plenty of commercial type around of course.
    Change of subject. Has anyone tried ALE, the mode not the brew. Would be interested to try some QSO`s in that mode. Info on ALE can be found on URL
 
 
 
    The latest software,which works very well,can be downloaded on =
 
 
    I have just downloaded the latest version { G } and it works very well.
 
    Active freqs are given in the ALE info. For a quick check 2250 / 4841 / 5120 khz are usually quite active.
 
    Give it a try, its different.
 
                                                    73 ` s  de Derek // G4JFI
 

Re: software and sound cards.

n7dc@...
 

http://cissearch.compuserve.com/srch/cssearch/cssearch-fra This is the
address I have for a whole lot of digiital software, might try it
Danny N7DC

Re: AMTOR?

Nick Fedoseev <nf@...>
 

Hello Les,

Friday, May 12, 2000, you wrote:

Les> Like CW?

No, I heard CW much more often in the region of 14060..14112 :
- beacons on 14100,
- CWIDs anywhere,
- CW QSOs, mainly during CW contests

:-)




Andrew> I have not heard an AMTOR signal in ages, has AMTOR become extinct?

I heard AMTOR twice last year :-)


Best regards,
Nick mailto:nf@...

Your round Andrew

Derek Shipman <derek@...>
 

Hi Andrew and all.
                                What kept you..hi.. you certainly are a fast reader. Yes, ALE is all good clean fun. Despite all the gobblegook, a one to one QSO is just a functional as any other mode,with lots more joining in of course. hi...
    Anyway, worth a try. As for me, time to head for Washington, Seattle that is. Frasier on in 15 minutes.
        Goodnight from Scarborough, the weekend starts here,
 
                                        73 ` s,
 
                                                        Derek  { G4JFI }
 

zakanaka

Andrew Nicholson <andrew60@...>
 

Hi.
Terry Tankard, tells me of ZAKANAKA.
To late to get it, my phone packed up.
Anyone got the exe file?. please send me a copy.
Thanks.
Andy N.

More on ALE

Andrew J. O'Brien <obrienaj@...>
 

Hey, looks like fun...never tried it though.

I found more info....

General Overview:
Automatic Link Establishment (ALE) is the principle where a specialized
radio modem, known as an ALE adaptive controller, is assigned the task of
automatically controlling an HF receiver and transmitter in order to
establish the highest quality communication link with 1 or multiple HF radio
stations.

ALE controllers can be found as external devices (such as pictured above,
the Harris RF-7210A) or as imbedded options in modern HF radio equipment.

Link establishment is dependent on many factors and is fully optimized by
the use of a micro computer in the ALE controller. What follows is a basic
description of how ALE functions as the in-depth workings of ALE can be
elaborate and complicated to illustrate.

ALE controllers function on the basic principles of LQA (Link Quality
Analysis) and SOUNDing. These tasks are accomplished using the following
common elements.

Each controller has a pre-determined set of frequencies programmed into
memory channels.
Channels are continuously scanned (typically at a rate of 2 channels per
second).
Each controller has a pre-determined set of call signs programmed into
memory which includes its own station call sign (SELF), NETwork call signs,
GROUP call signs and INDIVIdual call signs.
ALE controllers transmit LQAs which SOUND the programmed frequencies for
best link quality factors on a regular, automated or operator initiated
basis.
When listening, ALE units log station call signs, frequencies heard on, and
assign a RANKing score relevant to the quality of the link on a per channel
basis.
When a station desires to place a call, the ALE controller attempts to LINK
to the outstation using the data collected during ALE and SOUNDing
activities. If the outstation's data has not been collected by the sending
ALE, the controller will seek the station and attempt to LINK using all
programmed channels.

Upon a successful LINK, the ALE controllers will cease the channel scanning
process and alert the operators that the system has establish a connection
and that stations should now exchange traffic. Upon completion of a LINK
session, the ALE controllers will send a LINK TERMINATION command and the
ALE units will return to the scanning mode awaiting further traffic.
Built-in safeguards also insure that ALE controllers will return to the SCAN
mode in the event of loss-of-contact.

As well as being capable of LQA and Optimum Working Frequency channel
selection, modern ALE controllers are also capable of sending short (87
ASCII characters long) orderwire digital messages known as Automatic Message
Display (AMD) to ANY or ALL members on the network. ALE controllers can
contact individual stations by their call sign, ALL stations, or ANY
stations on the NETwork or GROUP. ALL call and ANY call make use of
wildcard characters in substitution for individual call sings such as @?@
(ALL) and @@? (ANY). NULL Address Calls are used for system maintenance
and are sent as @@@.

Waveform:
ALE controllers conform to MIL-STD-188-141A link establishment functions and
perform encoding and decoding of data by the use of an 8-ARY binary FSK
modulator/demodulator.

Compatibility:
Not all ALE controllers are compatible. Further developments have now
produced 2 generations of link controllers mainly referred to AUTOLINK I and
AUTOLINK II. The second generation controller is both downwards and upwards
compatible with the first generation controllers as long as the
compatibility features are enabled in the system software. The basic
difference between the first and second generation units is in the type of
addressing utilized. Call signs in the generation 1 controllers are limited
to numerical digits (i.e. 112358) and call signs in the generation 2
controllers can employ up to 15 alphanumerical identifiers (i.e. UUT or
UNIT1 etc...).

Reliability:
Research indicates that equipment employing ALE technology over a set of 10
to 20 HF frequencies dispersed across the spectrum can raise the probability
of communication (above 95%) to a distant station several thousand
kilometers away to nearly that of SATCOM systems.

software and sound cards.

peter talbot <peterm1dgq@...>
 

can any one out there give me the URL's for soundcard based software for all
digital modes I have a few progs but would like to try all modes in this
manner as I have no tnc and I am running on a small budget.so the sound card
is the easiest option.
73 peter m1dgq.

Re: software and sound cards.

Andrew J. O'Brien <obrienaj@...>
 

Peter, a quick and cheap way to start is to download MixW , you can get it
at

http://tav.kiev.ua/~nick/mixw/mixw.htm

The demo version 1.42 is FREE, the full version costs a few quid but I have
managed to use the free version without any problem (it does not expire)

MixW has RTTY. PSK. Hell, CW and a few more digital modes ALL via a sound
card.

73 de Andy KB2EOQ

----- Original Message -----
From: "peter talbot" <peterm1dgq@...>
To: <digitalradio@...>
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2000 4:40 PM
Subject: [digitalradio] software and sound cards.


can any one out there give me the URL's for soundcard based software for
all
digital modes I have a few progs but would like to try all modes in this
manner as I have no tnc and I am running on a small budget.so the sound
card
is the easiest option.
73 peter m1dgq.


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Re: Multi Mode sound card software

Jim Sheldon <w0eb@...>
 

Yup Jack, it does, but when you consider the cost of the
KAM+ and HostMasterII, vs the cost of the programs
for the sound card, the sound card programs win hands down.
They are just as easy to interface, and in some cases even
easier. I have a KAM that has been upgraded to the Equivalent
of the KAM+ for sale. I don't have HostMaster software.
The KAM will go for $150 plus shipping.

Jim - W0EB w0eb@... Wichita, KS

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jack" <jbfriend@...>
To: <digitalradio@...>
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2000 7:59 PM
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Multi Mode sound card software


A KAM Plus and HostMaster II + run
RTTY
ASCII
CW
FEC
AMTOR
Navtex
Pactor
Gtor
and Packet
Jack ak7o

----- Original Message -----
From: Andrew J. O'Brien <obrienaj@...>
To: <digitalradio@...>
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2000 3:51 AM
Subject: [digitalradio] Multi Mode sound card software


I am aware that Mix has the ability to work several digital modes (RTTY,
PSK, CW, and more) but what about other software ? Writelog has some
perhaps. Is that it? Seems odd to me that there would only be two.
Zakanaka will eventually have RTTY , PSK and CW. The world is waiting
for
that one program that does them all! (including Hell and MT63)

Andy KB2EOQ


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APRS

Harry Wiliford <hawiliford@...>
 

Hi All
Got a question ..Dose any one know of software using the soundcard instead of using a TNC to use APRS ..
I'm aware of DOS and WIN software using a TNC.Just curious ??? all replys appreciated
thx de wb9iiv - Harry

Re: Multi Mode sound card software

Jack <jbfriend@...>
 

A KAM Plus and HostMaster II + run
RTTY
ASCII
CW
FEC
AMTOR
Navtex
Pactor
Gtor
and Packet
Jack ak7o

----- Original Message -----
From: Andrew J. O'Brien <obrienaj@...>
To: <digitalradio@...>
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2000 3:51 AM
Subject: [digitalradio] Multi Mode sound card software


I am aware that Mix has the ability to work several digital modes (RTTY,
PSK, CW, and more) but what about other software ? Writelog has some
perhaps. Is that it? Seems odd to me that there would only be two.
Zakanaka will eventually have RTTY , PSK and CW. The world is waiting for
that one program that does them all! (including Hell and MT63)

Andy KB2EOQ


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