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Re: VARA P2P

pat obrien <2WR796@...>
 

HI GUYS;
P2P is running great here, have made some connects thru Pennsylvania, ILL with strong signals. I have tested it with W0LEN also on 60 meters channel 3, wow what a signal during day light hours on 60 meters, s9 plus.
I belong to a group called winlink p2p, a number of stations on experimenting for propagation, message  handling etc. Contact w0len for info.
ANDY have my receiver set up on 10 to connect, when the band opens, which if lucky , it seems to open daily at some time.
PAT/K8LEN


Re: VARA P2P

Andrew OBrien
 

I’ll take a look but at this point looking to test same VARA speeds used on the usual HF bands. 

Andy


On Aug 1, 2020, at 5:25 PM, Graham <g0nbd@...> wrote:



[Edited Message Follows]

Andy , 

What's the   p97  say about data and  FM on  10  meters  ? 
used to be a  1200 packet  net on 29 something  using FM
many years  back, skip into  EU , vara FM would  fly on 10 

73 -Graham
g0nbd


Re: VARA P2P

Graham
 
Edited

Andy , 

What's the   p97  say about data and  FM on  10  meters  ? 
used to be a  1200 packet  net on 29 something  using FM
many years  back, skip into  EU , vara FM would  fly on 10 

73 -Graham
g0nbd


Re: VARA P2P

Andrew OBrien
 

Pat, I set up a P2P piece of mail for you . If others are interested I will be glad to set up P2P test messages for each station that puts VARA mode through its paces .  The challenge is ... I am parked on 10 meters . 10 meters because I would like to see what speeds VARA can reach when 10 is “open”.   A generally quiet band . I am on 28150 center frequency (28138.5 dial ) Hopefully I have picked a frequency that complies with band plan. 

Andy K3UK 


On Aug 1, 2020, at 10:05 AM, Andrew OBrien via groups.io <k3ukandy@...> wrote:

I had almost forgotten about P2P applications.  Will play with it some more . 

Andy


On Aug 1, 2020, at 9:44 AM, pat obrien <2WR796@...> wrote:

Tnx,it works  now,have a great weekend,
pat/k8len


HAM RADIO HF DIGITAL MODES SOFTWARE INFORMATION AND LIST

Dora Tamilta <doratamilta@...>
 


Also includes a link to help you identify the sounds of ham radio digital communications signals.


This page contains a description of many of the popular HF digital modes software. 

https://prezhost.com/2020/08/01/ham-radio-hf-digital-modes-software-information-and-list/


Re: VARA P2P

Andrew OBrien
 

I had almost forgotten about P2P applications.  Will play with it some more . 

Andy


On Aug 1, 2020, at 9:44 AM, pat obrien <2WR796@...> wrote:

Tnx,it works  now,have a great weekend,
pat/k8len


Re: VARA P2P

pat obrien <2WR796@...>
 

Tnx,it works  now,have a great weekend,
pat/k8len


Re: VARA P2P

Chiefsfan2
 

Make sure in the new message box under send as make sure that is marked for peer to peer. I did the same thing😀

On Jul 31, 2020, 16:01 -0500, Ron via groups.io <rwenig@...>, wrote:
Pat,

Make sure that the message you send is a P2P type.

73, Ron NY3J

On 7/31/20 4:29 PM, pat obrien wrote:
NEED HELP
I put the winlink in P2P, type a msg, connect with a station , but the message does not go out to the other station.
It works in all other modes pactor, ardop etc and sends messages, so must be doing something wrong but what NO idea.
Any suggestions?
tnx
POB/K8LEN


Re: VARA P2P

 

Pat,

Make sure that the message you send is a P2P type.

73, Ron NY3J

On 7/31/20 4:29 PM, pat obrien wrote:
NEED HELP
I put the winlink in P2P, type a msg, connect with a station , but the message does not go out to the other station.
It works in all other modes pactor, ardop etc and sends messages, so must be doing something wrong but what NO idea.
Any suggestions?
tnx
POB/K8LEN


VARA P2P

pat obrien <2WR796@...>
 

NEED HELP
I put the winlink in P2P, type a msg, connect with a station , but the message does not go out to the other station.
It works in all other modes pactor, ardop etc and sends messages, so must be doing something wrong but what NO idea.
Any suggestions?
tnx
POB/K8LEN


Re: Opera QSO party running on 7038

Graham
 

Recent  activity  No TA spots   showing -

2020-07-27 22:28:50 KD0YTE EN30QF KC0FGX EN30SE 15 7.038 -6 Op2_||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||_~6dB
2020-07-27 22:11:45 KC0FGX EN30SE KD0YTE EN30QF 15 7.038 -1 Op2_||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||_~1dB

2020-07-27 16:41:46 RX3DHR KO94KS SV8RV KM07KS 2.328 7.038 -23 Op2_||||||_~23dB


Re: Whats new in VARA 4 ? #VARA #qrp

Graham
 

Trick's  of the  trade 

The low speed  ranges  of the  2.3KHz   wide  mode ,  are  designed  for a  filter
bandwidth  of ~ 1.5 KHz , higher levels requiring the  full  channel  

As  user  data and experiences  are gathered, one aspect  has become clear ,  the 
full  2.4 KHz voice  channel  is not  always  fully  available, hence to  ensure 
maximum efficiency , ie power transfer in the  lower  ranges , the  modem allows 
for constricted  channel  bandwidth,  either by  the  various  user interfaces  or 
filter bandwidth

Thus  ensuring the  bedrock  -20 dB  is achievable ,  independently  of 
equipment  irregularities ,  two  images  make the  point , using the
opera  waterfall  display , with  mouse  pointer/frequency  as measurement 
tool ,

First  ic7100  with  2.5 KHz usable  bandwidth  in data  mode 
using digital filtering . direct USB link to  pc 

The  second , FT897D offering a  much rounded response
with  app  1.5 KHz usable  bandwidth** using  usb 
soundblaster 24 bit  audio  card , fed  from  rig  data 
out 

** Why this is so,  may  be due to  filter  ageing ?

IC7100


FT897D  { 10 years  old ]


Re: Whats new in VARA 4 ? #VARA #qrp

Graham
 
Edited

Interesting  comments  from  LA gateway   using the  500  mode 

Link maintaining   traffic   [ qso]   flow  down to   -20 dB s/n  
over quite difficult  high  latitude paths  , oddly , the  latest
simulator  tests , stop at -5 db s/n  ?

-20 .. Thats  a significantly  Low  signal level, well  inside
what  could be  classed as  weak signals  mode , for  comparison
the  op05 opera beacon  30 seconds ,  and  the  'qso mode 15 chrs plain text 
60 second tx time  line.  both  run to -20 dB possible  -23 dB 

As example ,  F5ZAL is a  2 meter  fixed beacon ,   running  10  watts  to  'halo'  type  ae  with  360 deg coverage , op05 / 30 second  mode,  being  spotted at  546 Km,  at levels that  would  support the  Vara  2300  and  500  modem  

F5ZAL F5SN 2m OPERA 546 km 18:01:24
 
 
2020-07-22 19:53:18 F5ZAL AA F5SN JN27RB 0 144.475 -15 Op05_||||||||_~16dB
2020-07-22 18:24:33 F5ZAL AA F5SN JN27RB 0 144.475 -13 Op05_||||||||||||_~14dB
2020-07-22 18:05:01 F5ZAL AA F5SN JN27RB 0 144.475 -10 Op05_||||||||||||||||||_~11dB
2020-07-22 18:01:28 F5ZAL AA F5SN JN27RB 0 144.475 -16 Op05_||||||||_~16dB
2020-07-22 12:50:50 F5ZAL AA F5SN JN27RB 0 144.475 -15 Op05_||||||||||_~15dB
2020-07-22 12:29:32 F5ZAL AA F5SN JN27RB 0 144.475 -10 Op05_||||||||||||||||||||_~10dB
2020-07-22 12:17:06 F5ZAL AA F5SN JN27RB 0 144.475 -16 Op05_||||||||_~16dB
2020-07-22 12:15:20 F5ZAL AA F5SN JN27RB 0 144.475 -17 Op05_||||||_~17dB
2020-07-22 12:02:54 F5ZAL AA F5SN JN27RB 0 144.475 -16 Op05_||||||||_~16dB
2020-07-22 11:29:11 F5ZAL AA F5SN JN27RB 0 144.475 -17 Op05_||||_~18dB
2020-07-22 11:25:38 F5ZAL AA F5SN JN27RB 0 144.475 -15 Op05_||||||||||_~15dB


73- Graham
g0nbd


Easypal Ver07/Oct/2014 issue

Andrew Mummert
 

When we start up EasyPai, there is a light grey flow on the waterfall.

No activity in the wave bar. No IO, No RX.

This is happening even without the radio attached.

Has anyone come across this issue?

Andrew
W3AND


Re: Whats new in VARA 4 ? #VARA #qrp

Tomasz
 

Thank you for the quick reply !
I will look for a solution.

73 Tomek
SP5LOT


vARIM Messaging Program for VARA HF Modem - version 1.2

Bob NW8L
 

Hello,
 
Introducing version 1.2 of vARIM, a host program for message passing and file transfer using the VARA HF modem. Download links are here:
 
 
on the vARIM Documentation page.
 
Files are also available in the Files area at the arim-ham Groups.io group:
 
 
This is a maintenance release. Changes include:
 
v1.2  12Jul2020
---------------
1. Refresh Top Status Bar when port name is changed with the
   'pname' command.
2. During an ARQ session, update timestamp in Heard List whenever
   data is received from the remote station.
3. Immediately detach from the VARA modem on detecting that it has
   closed the TCP connections (e.g. VARA shut down by operator)
   and reset application state.
 
vARIM is a peer-to-peer messaging and file transfer for HF bands. It will run on Linux, Raspberry Pi, Cygwin/X on Windows and Windows Subsystem for Linux (WSL) on Windows 10. The VARA modem runs only on Windows computers, but vARIM can run in Cygwin/X or WSL on the Windows computer, which is convenient. Alternatively, you can run vARIM on a Linux or RPi computer and attach it to a VARA modem instance running on a Windows computer in the same local area network.
 
For Linux OS, the binary distributions are for Ubuntu 18.04 and derivatives like Linux Mint 19.x only. It's best to compile vARIM from source code to avoid library versioning problems. It's easy, instructions are found in the INSTALL file included in the source distribution (with instructions for Fedora 28 and derivatives, and for Cygwin/X too).
 
vARIM works with VARA HF version 4.0.x which introduces a robust 500Hz ARQ bandwidth option. vARIM allows you to specify which bandwidth to use in the .ini file, or as a choice in the "ARQ Connect" dialog (500 or 2300 Hz).
 
To key the rig, if VOX isn't suitable, vARIM supports hardware PTT using serial port RTS or DTR signals. This works on Linux, RPi, Cygwin/X and WSL using built in serial ports or USB-to-Serial converter cables. PTT setup details are found in the Help page. 
 
I have a station running VARA HF version 4.0.3 on (dial) 7.085 MHz that's available for testing. The station call sign is NW8L and it will be configured for ARQ using the 500Hz bandwidth. It might be QRT from time to time if thunderstorms are in the area (near Albuquerque, NM). At NW8L vARIM is running in WSL on the same Windows 10 laptop that hosts the VARA HF modem. The audio interface is a USB sound card connected to line in and line out jacks on the rig. The rig is keyed using vARIM's hardware PTT (DTS) over a USB-to-Serial converter cable between computer and rig.
 
If anyone using VARA HF has time to test vARIM I would be interested in your results and bug reports. If you install vARIM, try connecting to NW8L on (dial) 7.085MHz and sending me a message!
 
73,
Bob NW8L
 


Re: Whats new in VARA 4 ? #VARA #qrp

Andrew OBrien
 

if you are using paired virtual ports , try removing the paired ports and then re-create the pair 

Andy


On Jul 12, 2020, at 10:13 AM, Graham <g0nbd@...> wrote:

Tomeck , 

Ros,  suspects , there is another application runinning that has acquired the com port
Needed to address the modem ...

Might  need a little knife and forking , in the device manager  to see what is 
Using what resource   

Or post into the vara user groups, which is in Google groups , should
get a more tailored response 

73 Graham
G0nbd


Re: Whats new in VARA 4 ? #VARA #qrp

Graham
 

Tomeck , 

Ros,  suspects , there is another application runinning that has acquired the com port
Needed to address the modem ...

Might  need a little knife and forking , in the device manager  to see what is 
Using what resource   

Or post into the vara user groups, which is in Google groups , should
get a more tailored response 

73 Graham
G0nbd


Re: Need info on reliable refurbished computer source

Rick Brown
 

ASUS E203MA is less than $200.00. I bought 2, one for the Mobile setup and one for an RMS Gateway.

Regards
Rick


Winmor to be dropped from Winlink

Andrew OBrien
 

https://winlink.org/content/winmor_deprecated

Many of us in this group enjoyed early experimentation with Rick’s Winmor and reliable use of this mode on Winlink and P2P .  Thanks to Rick for this and for his work with the current ARDOP. 



Andy K3UK

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